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Vampire mythologies

I'm not nearly as well-read in vampire stories as you'd think I would be, given my obsession with Buffy and Angel.

Riddle me this: is there an actual vampire mythos out there wherein the vampires do not have to kill, because they can feed from a specially talented/genetically structured midwife type of vampire/human/otherdemonytypecreature? The third party requirement is what I'm looking for...

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boniblithe
Feb. 16th, 2004 01:36 pm (UTC)
All I can think of is the occasional point in the Anne Rice novels where a pretty, young mortal or group of mortals will live in thrall to a vampire or group of vampires and allow them to feed from them regularly, not enough to kill, and serve the vampire by keeping them safe and cared for in other ways. Sort of like ... altar boys.
chrisjournal
Feb. 16th, 2004 01:39 pm (UTC)
Urgh. No, not at all what I'm looking for. Or maybe more accurately, hoping not to find. If that makes any sense. There's this plot bunny that has gripped me, but I'm just sure it's been done before and well.
10zlaine
Feb. 16th, 2004 01:48 pm (UTC)
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Now that you mention it, she did write something like that in Vittorio. The vampires in that story kept to themselves in a cloaked commune, and maintained some sort of twisted mesmerized Brigadoon outside their commune full of townfolk who turned over their less-than-perfect members in exchange for peace and whatever. Also, the commune would maraude other settlements which might serve as a threat to them and the brigadoon they set up, usually killing the whole community. However, they kept on their commune a sort of cattle lot of humans that bled themselves into pots or something to maintain their commune masters. Story took place a few hundred years ago.

I don't recall the details much. It was a weird book that was a gift that I read at New Year's very quickly just to read it. If there was a point to the story, I missed it. Different idea, though...
dettiot
Feb. 16th, 2004 01:41 pm (UTC)
In the Harry Dresden books, too, Bianca--the main vampire that Harry's tangled with--has people that she feeds off but doesn't kill. The twist is that vampire saliva has addictive narcotic properties, making the people get addicted to getting licked then bit.
chrisjournal
Feb. 16th, 2004 01:49 pm (UTC)
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Nods. That reminds me of the whole Riley/Into the Woods thing... But so totally not what I'm after. I'm looking for stories where either a third party or a special type of vampire or human are required. Surely they're out there?
dettiot
Feb. 16th, 2004 01:53 pm (UTC)
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Ahh, I kinda see what you want . . . and I've got nothing. :-) Good luck with the bunny!
10zlaine
Feb. 16th, 2004 01:51 pm (UTC)
Also, since I'm ignorant, what was the concoction that Blade took to sustain him? Sounds like you have a plot bunny well worth feeding.
freixenet
Feb. 16th, 2004 01:59 pm (UTC)
The classic Dracula mythology suggests (and Laurell Hamilton develops this a little with Anita Blake and Jean-Claude) that after X number of bites, a vamp can feed through his/her human's ingesting food. The explanation given by Dracul is that this way, when they're on board a ship, the vamp never has to leave the coffin but can simply live off whatever his "human servant" is eating/drinking. Anita and Jean-Claude turn this into a power struggle, of course--she'll agree to ordering something really luscious in a restaurant that HE wants but she won't agree to eat all of it, just enough for him to taste it.

Is that at all what you're looking for?
chrisjournal
Feb. 16th, 2004 02:00 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I think the chemistry is closer to what I'm looking for. Not *quite* there, though, which is v. good.
elsaf
Feb. 16th, 2004 02:05 pm (UTC)
What you're describing would be very close to a book by Jon Blum and Kate Orman, Vampire Science, published by BBC Worldwide. It's a Doctor Who tie-in book.

The vampires in that book are breeding genetically engineered not-quite-humans as a food supply, so they won't have to kill people.

But I wouldn't call it a mythology. As far as I know, it was just that one book.
chrisjournal
Feb. 16th, 2004 02:24 pm (UTC)
Hmm. Yeah, that's got some of the elements I'm digging around for, but is far enough off that it might be useful. Thanks, Elsa!
paratti
Feb. 16th, 2004 03:57 pm (UTC)
In the Anita Blakeverse, the were's of varying types, wolves, leopards etc get used as pomme de sang's (blood apple) by the Master Vampires as breakfast/sex toys/bondage gear models. They heal from being fed on heavily super-fast.
chrisjournal
Feb. 16th, 2004 05:09 pm (UTC)
Oooooooh. Now that feeds the bunny in a very unexpected way... I think maybe I need to read Anita Blake, too.
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mintwitch
Feb. 16th, 2004 07:03 pm (UTC)
Yarbro's vamps don't have to kill, especially if their, er, dinner, is in love or they are having sex. The intensity of emotion enhances the blood. It is not stable over the long term, however, resulting eventually in vampirism for the victim/dinner/inamorata.
paratti
Feb. 17th, 2004 07:25 am (UTC)
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Though Yarbro's male vamps inability to get it up might prove a problem for the Jossverse boys.
mintwitch
Feb. 17th, 2004 07:53 am (UTC)
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Good point.
rue10
Feb. 17th, 2004 07:44 am (UTC)
Also, in Jacqueline Lichtenberg's Those of My Blood and Dreamspy, though her vampires here are aliens, not demonic, the vampires have "orl", which are like livestock, who they feed from. They feed on them in sets of two, so that the orl can "replenish" themselves afterwards, technically via sex. (The vampires stranded on earth in TOMB drink from humans, but usually replenish them by having sex with them, and giving them vitamins. The most important part about the blood is the life force, not the blood itself, though blood is really the best/only way to get it.)

And Lichtenberg and Jean Lorrah's Sime~Gen books are, I believe, about symbiotic vampire-like creatures, but I haven't read them so I can't say for sure.

Oh, the things I get to learn from work. :)

And my personal Buffy/Angel obsession doesn't stem from any previous maniacal interest in vampires/vampire literature either. Thus again proving the pervasive, bigger-than-genre magic of the Buffyverse.
darkrhiannon
Feb. 17th, 2004 07:49 am (UTC)
Friedman, Friedman, Friedman!!!!
Absolutely marvelous sci fi writer--not prolific. Spends about 5 years per book so is relatively unknown, but DANG is she infuckingcredible. I have read and reread every single one of her books more times than I can count. The Madness Season is her vampire book.... he is NOT a predator...despite what he himself believes.....

Here.... Forest

The Madness Season © 1990, DAW Books, Inc. ISBN: 0-88677-444-6

"How long have you lived on this planet?" it demanded.

The abruptness of the question threw me. I had dreamed those very words in a thousand nightmares, said in every place and by every being that the Conquest might make possible. But in each of those dreams, no matter what my response, I failed to save myself. I died. Because there was no magic number that the Tyr would find acceptable; if it knew to ask the question, it knew too much already for any answer to be safe.

What could I say? To be caught in a lie would mean certain execution; to tell them the whole truth, if they didn't already know it, might be even more damning.

Synopsis

Just as C.S. Friedman explored the topic of human conflict in In Conquest Born, her second novel revolves around the themes of self-identity and self-discovery. The main character in this story is Daetrin, a human surviving in the post-conquest of Earth by the alien Tyr. His past is discovered, and in his escape from captivity he discovers a means to free mankind from the alien tyranny forever.

Again Friedman uses secondary characters and events, in this case a friendly alien named Marra and a quirky Tyr named Frederick to indirectly illustrate the person named Daetrin as he progresses not only on a journey to free man from slavery, but also on the path to accepting who and what he is.
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