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Discusses Touched and End of Days, in case you're not caught up...

I still love Buffy, you know. It's highly unfashionable, I realize. I mean the show. The character too, of course, but I'm talking show here. I am still entertained. I am still moved to think. I am still in love with the main characters. I still want to know, with excitement, 'what happens next'. And it makes me so very sad to think that as of Tuesday, there won't be any more answers headed my way.

I've been with Buffy and Joss since the very first episode, when my young ones were only one. I watched Welcome to the Hellmouth because I enjoyed the movie. I kept watching because it was *damned* good tv. Still is, imho. After seven years, they manage to make me think differently about some truly classical themes. And I feel as if I *know* these characters. I enjoy their visits into my home and my head more than any show I've encountered. More than many, many books, too, and that's saying something.

Yeah, I'll be watching Angel next year. I have watched Angel on and off since its inception, too. They lost me somewhere in early S2, and only got me back last year. I have a full season and a half, if not more, to catch up on there.

As for the last few episodes of Buffy? I watch, feeling as if I'm holding my breath. I'm so in love, and I'm so in denial that it will end. At times I find myself in conversations picking nits to death and talking about how things could have been so much better (yes, I do think they could have). But in the end, I always come back to it: I adore this show. I think S6 was over the moon wonderful, and I've really enjoyed S7 despite the waste. In my mind, it's more of a half season than a full season, with all the time wasted dithering over spinoff this and spinoff that. But if I assume that ME and Joss wasted all that time trying to find a way to do a spinoff that folks would accept, then I can forgive the long string of SLEEPER/NLM/BOTN/SHOWTIME/POTENTIAL that was a waste of screentime... Looking back at other seasons, I see a similar failure in pacing, really. ME never has known how to contend with sweeps and ratings and corporate television business (c.f. Firefly). At least there was some good SpikeStaring there. Wasted storylines? Yeah. There have been many. This year *and* in previous years. I just kinda think we're all more judgemental of neglected plotlines this year because we know it's the end.

Over time in Buffy, I've seen the "powerful women equal lonely women" theme play out over and over again, and I've mourned for the one thing didn't think I could get: A powerful woman who is not alone. That's been my only real complaint (well, that and demon eggs -- ME writers should never, ever be allowed to write about eggs of any kind). Just as MustangSally ranted, why do they have to beat the notion that feminine power equals male castration into the ground? That's not growing up, and it's not coming into full power. I didn't like that part of EOD much. (hang in there with me...I'm getting to the lurve, I swear). Then I remember that they turned the whole gay cliche on its ear, too. And I feel better.

I have a feeling that Buffy's going to find out that castrating the powerful male is not enough. Denying someone else power over you isn't the same thing at all as truly embracing your own.

What's that? You wanna know what about Spike? What about the sex? Doesn't that come with the power package? Honestly, I think she's already got all the nooky she's getting. Poor girl. Spike's dead meat on a cross. Has been since Restless. He's bound to die in some spectacular fashion, AtS casting notwithstanding. But you know what? I think what she's got already is more than enough. Her story, and Spike's, came full circle for me in Touched. These last two eps are simply epilogue. Cleanup, even.

She found herself again in Touched, and she let him help her do it. Being alone *wasn't* the answer. Being believed in was. The kitchen scene in EoD confirmed that she's found herself and is beginning to open up for me, and the fantasyland sweeping music in the end scene with Angel proved the point. The music in the show (there's a cool essay on that somwhere) always gives us her point of view. And that music? Was as contrived and fake as any bodice-ripper cliche could ever be. Guess where I think Buffy's head is? (yeah, quit with the cat calls...I know that fandom isn't filled with the Buffy-love)

I know, I know: what about the SMG interview? Here's what I think: Poor SMG is a dingaling, and she always sounds it, too (cf Scooby Doo -- Mary Sue if I ever saw one). Buffy's a grown woman, finally, and on the verge of being able to actually love again. I hope we'll see that she really has learned before it's all done. That's really where the power lies in the Buffyverse, after all. Love as the great redeemer, the great source of power, the ultimate equalizer. And methinks the ultimate counter to the ultimate evil.

She doesn't have to be alone, and now she knows it. She's almost ready, and I think the next ep will be a Joss Classic. And I will be elated and excited and very, very sad.

Comments

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shaddyr
May. 18th, 2003 12:28 am (UTC)
What will the Future hold?
Thanks, Chris.

I'm not really very good at analyzing things about the show - it's about a feeling, it works for me or it doesn't. Then I read what macha and you and others write and think "Ahh, that's it. That's how I'm feeling. That's what I'm thinking."

I still love the show. And as much as I get angry at Buffy and wanna yell at her sometimes, I still love her. Buffy is 22 years old. She's saved the world 6 times now? Died on two occasions. Has had a lover go evil on her in a very scary way, and murder people she cared about. And hey, the regular life stuff - mother died, crappy jobs, child welfare, bills up to the wazoo.. well, let's just say I feel for the girl ever when I'm calling her an idiot. Cuz she's still just a *kid*.

And Spike. Oh, Chris, I hope you're wrong. I don't want Spike to die. He's my anti-hero. Dammit! He bloody well better not Shanshu, I want my bad-assed Spike!

I can't wait for the finale. And at the same time, I wish tuesday would never come. I don't want it to be over. You had 7 years with them, I've had less then two, and I begrudge the extra time. *sigh* I feel like I'm losing a friend. Does that make me weird, out-of-touch-with-reality obsesso girl? Cuz I really do.

I'm gonna cry on Tuesday, and prolly from more than whatever it is Joss does to rip my heart out.

I think I'm getting a head start on the whole sad thing.

chrisjournal
May. 18th, 2003 09:00 am (UTC)
Re: What will the Future hold?
Oh Shad, I'm so there with you. I don't want to say goodbye to *any* of them. I think I've been talking myself into Spike's departure literally since we saw last year that he really was on a redemptive path. Just remember what happened to that other man on a cross...

Buffy will live on in our memories and our fic and in reruns for decades. Doesn't mean we're any less sad that it's ending.

*hugs*
shaddyr
May. 18th, 2003 07:51 pm (UTC)
Re: What will the Future hold?
Just remember what happened to that other man on a cross...

WAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

*sniff*

Okay, I am okay with this, I am OKAY with this, Spike's coming back...

Hey. Is there a three day resurrection theme in there somewhere, too?

Buffy will live on in our memories and our fic and in reruns for decades. Doesn't mean we're any less sad that it's ending.

Yeah. *sigh* S'truth. Guess as long as we keep writing, it never really dies, eh? I mean, hey. People still write Classic Trek.

Yea, fic!

*grin* Thanks for the hug. I feel better.
cindergal
May. 18th, 2003 08:58 am (UTC)
She doesn't have to be alone, and now she knows it. She's almost ready, and I think the next ep will be a Joss Classic. And I will be elated and excited and very, very sad.


Move over, I'll join you on that bus of denial, bringing my unfashionable Buffy love along with me (although she's really pushing it as of EoD). I'm counting on Joss not to let me down.

And keeping my fingers crossed.
chrisjournal
May. 18th, 2003 08:09 pm (UTC)
::pats the seat next to her::

Plenty of room for all of us. I want my heart torn out through my nostrils on Tuesday, dammit. He owes us that.

As for Buffy pushing it, as much as I want to get resentful, I just can't. I feel so much for her. And she cried for him. She let him touch her. When was the last time she let someone touch her? Physically, emotionally, however. The girl is growing up. And what a horribly hard way to do it. Sigh. I need to do a 'my Buffy', don't I?
cindergal
May. 19th, 2003 07:22 am (UTC)
You really should do a "My Buffy." I've seen very few of those. And while I do agree with all you say above, the Angel thing still bugs me.

Can't help it.

I love her anyway, though. (and Angel too, actually)
nashvillain615
May. 18th, 2003 02:35 pm (UTC)
Damn, Chris. You're supposed to be writing *fic.* However, since I've been waiting to see something like this from you, I forgive and stand up in utter support.

I miss the Scoobs already, too!

Unfashionable or not, I too *love* Buffy. Kind Buffy, Angry Buffy, Dazed and Confused Buffy and all the Buffys in between.

She's so torn. And her feelings for Angel are kind of like those of the woman whose first love dies before they get to the crap. Angel came in and went out before RL took hold. So the bloom's still on that rose for her.

On the other hand, it's a wonder that she and Spike have progressed to such a deep bond that they can actually look each other in the eye. The history between those two is sometimes painful, sometimes merely embarrassing, but it's their history, such as it is - and it's been a lot more long-lasting than her liaison with Angel.

Besides, after seeing Lum's Evil Angel vid, I'm convinced Darla's the only one for him. Perfect happiness? Phhht! Give me messy every damn time!

Kimi
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